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john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good sense, richard, of how many republicans or maybe democrats for that matter, aren't so worried about going over the fiscal cliff at this point? >> i don't actually buy this argument that people are happy going over the fiscal cliff. they can see how damaging it is politically. they also are looking forward to the next fight about the debt ceiling, which is going to be even more damaging. so they always say it's the other guy who wants to go over the fiscal cliff. i don't hear people going out and saying i think it's a good idea that everyone pays more taxes or there are these deep spending cuts. they're all pretending like they know everyone else's strategy. it's about coming to
john boehner is in an impossible situation. i guess no one else wants the job. but that suggests that house republicans, as a force, even though they're the majority, are not a factor in these critical discussions facing the count try and the federal government at this time. again, that's a bad strategy, a bad place for them to be in, when they just won re-election. >> do you have a good sense, richard, of how many republicans or maybe democrats for that matter, aren't so worried about...
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boehner came up with what i kept seeing the pictures of john boehner and president obama sitting together and very good picture and they are both good guys to come up with a plan, and john boehner came up with a plan that democrats would not enjoy the idea that taxes going up on people earning more than $1 million a year and not acceptable for most people, but he could not get members of his own caucus to agree to it, so it is not fair for the republicans to somehow suggest that we are here because of the democrats. i am not saying that the democrats had nothing to do with it, but you can't get your own act together, and the republicans and the democrats in the house can't get their act together. >> well, we are here as inaction, and here is the deal on that, and what the president wanted to do was to generate enough revenue to cover government for agent eight days, seven or eight days and what do you do with the other 350-plus days leftover? you cannot continue to run trillion dollar deficits every year, because we are already at $16 trillion in debt. what we have is a debt crisis and qu
boehner came up with what i kept seeing the pictures of john boehner and president obama sitting together and very good picture and they are both good guys to come up with a plan, and john boehner came up with a plan that democrats would not enjoy the idea that taxes going up on people earning more than $1 million a year and not acceptable for most people, but he could not get members of his own caucus to agree to it, so it is not fair for the republicans to somehow suggest that we are here...
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i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are you going to be doing new year's eve," i think that we'll be finding that these people are still hard at it and maybe calling congress into session tomorrow night which is a really rotten way to end the year. >> jared, explain for our viewers what it really means to go over the cliff. >> well, first of all, as a former jazz bassist i have to appreciate the citing of "so what" because that's a bass feature. look, i've got to say. going over the cliff at this point i think is better than accepting a bad deal, and i don't think that we should operate from the perspective that going
i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are...
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speaker john boehner who has signaled he does support some kind of sandy aid has not decided to bring it up for vote in this session of congress. this session ends on thursday. if it is not brought up by then the bill will expire and the next congress will have to started on it all over again. >> gregg: molly henneberg, molly thanks. >> arthel: mixed messages on fiscal cliff, next today. republican senator lindsay graham expressing optimism on deal and president obama is calling out lawmakers for rejecting offers for last month. >> what do you think the chances of a small deal in the less 48 hours to avoid the cliff? >> exceedingly good. i think what have we accomplished, a political vick for the president. the president has stood his ground. he is going to get tax rate increases but upper income americans and sad news for the country we have accomplished very little of not becoming greece. this won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we'll have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for
speaker john boehner who has signaled he does support some kind of sandy aid has not decided to bring it up for vote in this session of congress. this session ends on thursday. if it is not brought up by then the bill will expire and the next congress will have to started on it all over again. >> gregg: molly henneberg, molly thanks. >> arthel: mixed messages on fiscal cliff, next today. republican senator lindsay graham expressing optimism on deal and president obama is calling out...
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the comments drew a quick response to john boehner who said republicans made every effort to reach the balanced deficit agreement that the president promised the people. we have been responsible and reasonable. the president is the one who has never been able to get to yes. we are learning that the fiscal cliff talks have hit a major setback today. joining us is oklahoma congressman tom cole. what are you hearing? are you hopeful that there is a deal today? >> i am probably the last optimist in washington. all the parties that can make a deal are in town. that is a step in the right direction. there is very serious negotiations going on now between senator mcconnell and leader reed. they have found common ground. i wouldn't be surprised that there are bumps along the way but the senate will get something done and it moves to the house. and what senate would be extraordinary important. >> until now it appeared negotiations centered around a small deal that would likely extend bush tax cuts for all but high earners and extend unemployment benefits for people set to lose them on january 2
the comments drew a quick response to john boehner who said republicans made every effort to reach the balanced deficit agreement that the president promised the people. we have been responsible and reasonable. the president is the one who has never been able to get to yes. we are learning that the fiscal cliff talks have hit a major setback today. joining us is oklahoma congressman tom cole. what are you hearing? are you hopeful that there is a deal today? >> i am probably the last...
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boehner and the job that he's doing. you know, senate majority leader, harry reid has got an approval rating just a little bit above that, 34% for his role in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> let's move on to other polling information. which i agree is prety long-term. locking out to 2016 now, what is the potential impact on all of this say on who could replace the current president of the united states. what are we seeing? >> well you know, that's right. the future is very fascinating. we took a look in a poll that we released today, the cnn/orc poll that looked at republicans and democrats. we asked senators from both parties, who they support. let's take a look at the parties. here's the lineup, for the democrats it's secretary of state hillary clinton. she's far and away ahead of the pack with what, 85% of those who said they would support her. she's got a 20-point lead over the next front-runners, which is vice president joe biden. new york governor andrew cuomo, the son of mario cuomo is in third with 56%. >> a lo
boehner and the job that he's doing. you know, senate majority leader, harry reid has got an approval rating just a little bit above that, 34% for his role in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> let's move on to other polling information. which i agree is prety long-term. locking out to 2016 now, what is the potential impact on all of this say on who could replace the current president of the united states. what are we seeing? >> well you know, that's right. the future is very...
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stan collender, how does john boehner come out looking after what happened? guest: it is hard to see anything positive. he took on negotiating for the republicans and failed to even get his own house to come along with some of what he wanted to do. now he is in control of the negotiations with harry reid. there is some discussion about whether he might be in trouble in his reelection as speaker. that is a long shot. it is unusual to unseat an existing speaker. it is possible. it is possible if he cuts a deal before his election, it could stop him from being reelected. host: what are the pitfalls for harry reid and mitch mcconnell as they negotiate today? guest: mitch mcconnell is up for reelection in 2014. if he agrees with the white house, it will hurt him in his district. rand paul -- mcconnell has less room to maneuver now than with previous deals. for harry reid, a lot of his reputation is on the line. can he put something on the floor of the senate that his own democrats will support? guest: the clearest losers are those unemployed and trying to get jobs
stan collender, how does john boehner come out looking after what happened? guest: it is hard to see anything positive. he took on negotiating for the republicans and failed to even get his own house to come along with some of what he wanted to do. now he is in control of the negotiations with harry reid. there is some discussion about whether he might be in trouble in his reelection as speaker. that is a long shot. it is unusual to unseat an existing speaker. it is possible. it is possible if...
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listen, if john boehner couldn't get a $1 million threshold on the floor and vote on it, why does anybody, anybody in their right mind think is senate is going to do something and send it to the house and watch them pass it. >> he's calling me crazy for being naive and silly enough to think maybe a deal would get done. it sounded like a kick in the gut. it wasn't what i wanted to hear, any of us wanted to hear. he's not surprised by it. i guess we shouldn't be surprised, but it's a disappointment. >> it's true. if they were going to get a deal in the next day or two, the time we have left, it would be a small deal. at this point, they can kick it to the next congress and the chances of having a bigger, better deal then are much greater. this isn't that much of a surprise. >> not much of a surprise. robert, can you back me up? i look like the political novice here. i was being hopeful something was going to get done. we knew what we were up against. the president had his back up plan. are you agreeing with the other two guests that not much of a surprise, we knew it was coming and, you kno
listen, if john boehner couldn't get a $1 million threshold on the floor and vote on it, why does anybody, anybody in their right mind think is senate is going to do something and send it to the house and watch them pass it. >> he's calling me crazy for being naive and silly enough to think maybe a deal would get done. it sounded like a kick in the gut. it wasn't what i wanted to hear, any of us wanted to hear. he's not surprised by it. i guess we shouldn't be surprised, but it's a...
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i feel sorry for john boehner. the reality is he's leading a house which is actually looking to not the 53% of americans that want do not want to see the yes go around the fiscal curve which is what the polls are showing but that's a national poll. the reality is, they're going back to districts where they are actually, you know, frankly, reporting to a very small percentage of the american public. and so we're not -- that's why the sonation is different in the senate and the house and that's really the problem that john boehner has. >> we are up against a very hard deadline here. i want to bring in the co-chair of the house progressive caucus. democratic congressman, keith ellis. right after this. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't roc
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how does john boehner come out looking after what happened over the past four weeks? guest: it is hard to see anything positive. he took on the negotiants for the republicans. he failed to get his own house to come along. plan b, clancy, -- plan c, and now he is seated negotiants to harry reid. -- negotiations to harry reid. it is certainly possible that he may have trouble getting reelected as speaker. he may get 20 or so to party boats to vote against them or not vote at all. i could stop him from being reelected. host: what are the pitfalls for harry reid and mitch mcconnell? guest: mcconnell is up for reelection in 2014. if he agrees with the white house on something, particularly tax increases, it will hurt him in his election. remember rand paul -- mcconnell has less room to maneuver. for harry reid, a lot of his reputation is on the line. can he put something on the floor of the senate that some democrats will support? guest: the biggest loser is the unemployed and those trying to get jobs. that is what this is about. really, people need to step back and realiz
how does john boehner come out looking after what happened over the past four weeks? guest: it is hard to see anything positive. he took on the negotiants for the republicans. he failed to get his own house to come along. plan b, clancy, -- plan c, and now he is seated negotiants to harry reid. -- negotiations to harry reid. it is certainly possible that he may have trouble getting reelected as speaker. he may get 20 or so to party boats to vote against them or not vote at all. i could stop him...
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has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and making a deal, you'd have lost a lot of money over the last couple of years. on the other hand, when reid and mcdonnell, the two senate leaders get into a room together, they somehow seem to be able to find an accommodation. i think there's much more for compromise with the senate leaders. let them make a deal, i'm sure reid is talking to the president and conversely, mcconnell is talking to boehner what they can go for, but probably to have the actual deal making going on between the two senate leaders. >> dave: chris, i want to say farewell, last time i'll chat with you on air and always a pleasure having a conversation with you on sunday mornings, we apprecia
has john boehner been deemed powerless by the developments and what the house voted and did not vote on that million dollars threshold? >> well, i don't know that i'd say powerless because if it does pass the senate he becomes quite powerful, but he's definitely on the sidelines on this president, and that may be just as well, quite frankly because i have to say if you bet on boehner and obama getting into a room together and making a deal, you'd have lost a lot of money over the last...
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boehner and fellow republicans before the deadline. >> president obama will be david gregory's exclusive guest on "meet the press" later this morning. you can watch his interview at 10:00 a.m. the nation'sup for gun show in delles this weekend. this weekend, organizers say there was overwhelming interest. in the wake of the sandy hook shootings, many people said they wanted to buy assault rifles before a possible ban. >> say something should happen and we no longer have right to purchase our guns, that means somebody got off this butt and decided to change the constitution, that will open the door to a lot of issues. >> the f.b.i. reported a record background checks for guns this year. a lawyer for one of the survivors of the newtown school massacre says the state and connecticut didn't do enough to keep the kids safe. lawyer irving pinsky said the state failed to provide a safe climate for his client's daughter. to howard county where police say they've cracked a string of burglaries that hit homes in columbia and ellicott city. >> th
boehner and fellow republicans before the deadline. >> president obama will be david gregory's exclusive guest on "meet the press" later this morning. you can watch his interview at 10:00 a.m. the nation'sup for gun show in delles this weekend. this weekend, organizers say there was overwhelming interest. in the wake of the sandy hook shootings, many people said they wanted to buy assault rifles before a possible ban. >> say something should happen and we no longer have...
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and speaker john boehner has shown he can't control how his caucus votes. if the senate fails to act, president obama wants it to consider a much smaller plan, one that at least would stop middle class tax hikes, at least. but republicans could block a vote on that. did you get all that? >>> by now, you're probably asking how did we get in this mess? cnn's ali velshi breaks it down for us. >> now we have passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> reporter: it starts more than a decade ago, when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans. but it's a deal with a devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient but costly to government, expire in ten years' time. >> both houses of congress have now passed a package of tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> reporter: when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. is just emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress ext
and speaker john boehner has shown he can't control how his caucus votes. if the senate fails to act, president obama wants it to consider a much smaller plan, one that at least would stop middle class tax hikes, at least. but republicans could block a vote on that. did you get all that? >>> by now, you're probably asking how did we get in this mess? cnn's ali velshi breaks it down for us. >> now we have passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses....
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what does john boehner do if mitch mcconnell and harry reed come to an agreement? >> that is the question if something is done on the senate side, craig, there's been the talk about house republicans as in any majority, you end up bringing the majority of the legislation that is support bid the majority, and if john boehner brings something to the floor that doesn't have the support of the majority of the house republicans, there could be some type of -- his speakership could be threatened, who ends up trying to run against him, you just don't know. about the likelihood of john boehner bringing legislation that is supported mostly by democrats and a handful of republicans will bring him some trouble. that's a dynamic to watch. >> mark murray, senior political editor, thanks to you, sir. for more on what could happen as the fiscal cliff counts down. i want bring in the senior congressional reporter in politico. it's clear from what was said yesterday, that he believes that the senate leaders can put together a deal. take a listen. >> i just had a good and constructi
what does john boehner do if mitch mcconnell and harry reed come to an agreement? >> that is the question if something is done on the senate side, craig, there's been the talk about house republicans as in any majority, you end up bringing the majority of the legislation that is support bid the majority, and if john boehner brings something to the floor that doesn't have the support of the majority of the house republicans, there could be some type of -- his speakership could be...
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my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker's staff that the president wanted to get there. this came up and it caused them to fall apart. >> is that how you understand it it went down? >> i'm not sure and i'm not sure it will end at some time. they didn't reach agreement and mitch mcconnell had arrived in the senate and cook up a deal which would put this out for 18 months, once again, mitch mcconnell has to ride to the rescue. it's a very interesting situati
my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up...
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he has to figure out a deal that gets through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of the great sub plots of these entire negotiations is personal things that boehner and mcconnell have in these negotiations. obviously, mcconnell doesn't want to have someone on the right come after him because he was in favor of a tax hike and john boehner's re-election as speaker of the house. and that would come across as a vote of no confidence. very embarrassing and they don't expect it happening and there's a lot at stake for mitch mcconnell and john boehner personally. great point you brought up. >> if the senate fails to come up with something, does the president have the votes? >> reporter: if harry rei
he has to figure out a deal that gets through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of...
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but there's someone noticeably absent and that is speaker john boehner. where is he? and has he been benched sort of in this process? >> he was here at the capitol this morning. our producer on capitol hill reports he was meeting with his chief of staff. we don't know the what they were talking about. he was here at the capitol. only he and senator mcconnell have been here today. you know, i think the situation is such that after speaker boehner lost that vote, and there is walking in from earlier in the week, after speaker boehner lost the vote in his own caucus in the house, it was clear and he even said as much, that the senate needed to act. that's for a couple of reasons. one, the senate has that 60-vote threshold to get anything through and conservativives in the house want cover, they don't want to pass something and have it run into trouble in the senate because they would be sticking their neck out to some degree especially those conservatives or republicans worried about a tea party challenge next time around. so for a lot of reasons, everything has to start
but there's someone noticeably absent and that is speaker john boehner. where is he? and has he been benched sort of in this process? >> he was here at the capitol this morning. our producer on capitol hill reports he was meeting with his chief of staff. we don't know the what they were talking about. he was here at the capitol. only he and senator mcconnell have been here today. you know, i think the situation is such that after speaker boehner lost that vote, and there is walking in...
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john boehner had said explicitly he's waiting for the senate to act. they won't do anything until that happens. it's really up in the air where we all go from here. there is a little bit of optimism i will say that folks think that mitch mcconnell and harry reid can work something out that won't be a perfect deal. a lot of folks saying they don't like it won't deal with the sequester. that perhaps it won't cut enough taxes, raise any taxes. you'll get sniping from both sides. but there's a hint of optimism this could be averted by new year's eve before the ball drops. >> luke russert throwing around the word optimism this morning. >> we'll see, my friend. we'll see. >> i haven't heard that word a lot this morning. so thank you for that. good to see you. let me head over to nbc's kristen welker. see if she can match that optimism. also, kristen, even if this doesn't work out it sounds like the president might have a backup plan of some kind. >> reporter: that's right. when president obama met with top congressional leaders here at the white house for ab
john boehner had said explicitly he's waiting for the senate to act. they won't do anything until that happens. it's really up in the air where we all go from here. there is a little bit of optimism i will say that folks think that mitch mcconnell and harry reid can work something out that won't be a perfect deal. a lot of folks saying they don't like it won't deal with the sequester. that perhaps it won't cut enough taxes, raise any taxes. you'll get sniping from both sides. but there's a hint...
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that's where we'd get that make or break moment where john boehner either says i'm going to put this on the floor or i won't. but it will go right up to the last minute. >> fantastic, thank you very much. >>> and a brief program note. david gregory will have an exclusive interview with the president on the fiscal cliff crisis. that's tomorrow on "meet the press." >> kind of sobering when you hear john say if it wasn't for the deadline, we wouldn't probably be as close to this point. >>> want to check now some of the other top stories from jenna wolf. good morning. >>> good morning. promising news for the victims of superstorm sandy. $60 billion emergency aid package sailed through the senate friday with backing from democrats. however, the bill does face an uncertain future now in the house where republican leaders want to cut that aid package by more than half. >>> federal prosecutors are accusing a neighbor of arming an ex-con who fatally shot two firefighters responding to a house fire in western new york on christmas eve. they say the woman, dawn nguyen of rochester, knew spengle
that's where we'd get that make or break moment where john boehner either says i'm going to put this on the floor or i won't. but it will go right up to the last minute. >> fantastic, thank you very much. >>> and a brief program note. david gregory will have an exclusive interview with the president on the fiscal cliff crisis. that's tomorrow on "meet the press." >> kind of sobering when you hear john say if it wasn't for the deadline, we wouldn't probably be as...
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john boehner is also crazy. none of them have any inkling, let alone a loyalty or fidelity, toward what would be good toward the american people. it is all about them. obama is going to retire in four years. he is looking at making millions of dollars on a speech circuit after that. john boehner is going to become a lobbyist. none of them care. host: we are going to leave it there. we have some items from . a couple of folks up in weighing in on facebook. -- a couple of folks have been weighing in on facebook. back to the telephones. ruth on the line for democrats. caller: they talk about the fiscal clef, but they are not really interested in fiske's -- fixing the fiscal cliff. there are interested in their own party. they have been against the president from the beginning, so they are not going to change anything. they do not want to help america. what people are they for? the people have spoken, but they do not ever listen to the people. what people are the working for? host: james in new york as a deadline fo
john boehner is also crazy. none of them have any inkling, let alone a loyalty or fidelity, toward what would be good toward the american people. it is all about them. obama is going to retire in four years. he is looking at making millions of dollars on a speech circuit after that. john boehner is going to become a lobbyist. none of them care. host: we are going to leave it there. we have some items from . a couple of folks up in weighing in on facebook. -- a couple of folks have been weighing...
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that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told about meetings about ways to avoid the fiscal cliff. not sure how they are going to hammer out details in the house. the principle negotiators. the leadership from both parties could be brought in later in the day. president obama has said, he said yesterday that if those leaders and those congressional negotiators cannot figure out how to compromise, then is he going to tell the senate just to vote anyways because he thinks with an up or down vote, senators with a support the plan that is already out there. the main hold up with the deal so far has been a fight over who should be classifi
that's going to be very politically dangerous for john boehner in the house. that's the bottom line. >> juliet: i know you are getting a lot of tweets. mine is like i blame, this i blame that guy. it's interesting to hear what you guys have to say about that first, let's go to peter doocy. what happens this weekend as far as negotiations are concerned? mr. doocy standing by in washington. hello, pete. >> dave: hello peter. >> hello juliet, dave and clayton. we have been told...
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by passing house speaker john boehner who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority and minority leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell, to lay out a deal. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders and the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i have asked senator reid to do this. put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for two million people. and that lays the ground work for deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the leaders they sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would take an extended period of time as you know, waiting for us. >> i share the view of the majority leader. we had a good meeting down at the white house. we are engaged in discussi
by passing house speaker john boehner who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority and minority leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell, to lay out a deal. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders and the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i have asked senator reid to do this. put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is...
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characteristic uninsured and beginning the speaker boehner. >> john boehner is a washington my friend was not obvious choice to leave the tea party class. nonetheless he could be the tea party phenomenon for the freight train that was then elected to be on the train rather than underneath it. speaker boehner campaigned heavily for tea party freshman and also believes this present at republicans and indeed america with the great opportunity. his believe, for example, was this would be a perfect recipe for entitlement reform. if you're going after entitlement reform ideally to have bipartisanship and specifically democratic president so they couldn't walk away from it. so he believed he could leverage the deep conservatives and that the tea party into action. but he failed to do so. the tea party freshman at time i spent a great deal of time and i spent time with an awful lot of them, like him personally, found an admiral and a genial ceo. this certainly not as their real leader. that has been implicitly cleared throughout the 112 congress. eric cantor, the majority leader is a bit diff
characteristic uninsured and beginning the speaker boehner. >> john boehner is a washington my friend was not obvious choice to leave the tea party class. nonetheless he could be the tea party phenomenon for the freight train that was then elected to be on the train rather than underneath it. speaker boehner campaigned heavily for tea party freshman and also believes this present at republicans and indeed america with the great opportunity. his believe, for example, was this would be a...
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characterize each one in shorthand beginning with speaker boehner. >> john boehner is a washington lifer and was not the obvious choice to be leading this sort of tea party crafts. nonetheless you can see the tea party phenomenon for the trade -- freight train that it was an elected to be on the train rather than underneath it. speaker boehner campaigned heavily for a number of the tea party freshman andy also you know believe that this presented the republicans and indeed america with a great opportunity. his belief for example was that this would be a perfect run for entitlement reform. if you are are going after entitlement reform ideally you have the bipartisanship specifically at democratic president so they could not walk away from it. and so, he believed that he could leverage the deep conservatism of the tea party. but he has failed to do so and the tea party freshman with whom i have spent a great deal of time and i have spent time with an awful lot of them, liked him personally and found him admirable in the way is a genial ceo but certainly not as there are real leader. that h
characterize each one in shorthand beginning with speaker boehner. >> john boehner is a washington lifer and was not the obvious choice to be leading this sort of tea party crafts. nonetheless you can see the tea party phenomenon for the trade -- freight train that it was an elected to be on the train rather than underneath it. speaker boehner campaigned heavily for a number of the tea party freshman andy also you know believe that this presented the republicans and indeed america with a...
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the leadership or refer to speaker john boehner, minority leader eric cantor, kevin mccarthy. it's not for this class of 87 freshman. the class of 2010. would be minority leader boehner. these guys came and not beholden by any means to leadership and made it clear from the outset that they were not just going to be told to fall into line. the real problem for modeled this republican leadership, but to prove to be the case if the democrats regain power is that the enforcement tools of yesteryear are indeed of yesteryear, since it earmarks have now been banned, since the blogosphere you can turn somebody into an instant martyr by stripping them of their committee assignments. it's very, very hard to use a stake in addition to a kerry. there's a .. of my book i referred to after the debt ceiling fiasco of the summer of 2011 when they came back in yet another conjuring resolution used to fund the government and the obama administration had passed a budget was coming up. the republican leadership believed they couldn't use the vote in fact there are members voted against it. the ap
the leadership or refer to speaker john boehner, minority leader eric cantor, kevin mccarthy. it's not for this class of 87 freshman. the class of 2010. would be minority leader boehner. these guys came and not beholden by any means to leadership and made it clear from the outset that they were not just going to be told to fall into line. the real problem for modeled this republican leadership, but to prove to be the case if the democrats regain power is that the enforcement tools of yesteryear...
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>> is the president setting up house speaker john boehner here for a majority of the house vote? >> that's the real question right now. right now, the focus is on the senate. what does harry reid do? does he blink obama's plan to the floor or try to work with mcconnell in this 11th hour. you will have a tough vote for many house republicans. if that level is at 250 and it includes unemployment, make it so republicans may not. >> joy, do you think we have a deal? >> you know, ill'm still very dubious. but if there is a deal, it will be with a majority of democrats in the house and there's a political risk for boehner in that. >> thank you. you've been watching "hardball." we'll be back in one hour with an all-new live edition. until then, "politics nation" starts rite now. >> thanks, richard. thanks to you for tuning in. breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesse
>> is the president setting up house speaker john boehner here for a majority of the house vote? >> that's the real question right now. right now, the focus is on the senate. what does harry reid do? does he blink obama's plan to the floor or try to work with mcconnell in this 11th hour. you will have a tough vote for many house republicans. if that level is at 250 and it includes unemployment, make it so republicans may not. >> joy, do you think we have a deal? >> you...
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>> well, you know what, richard, i think this could be john boehner learning the lesson of not to put out any specifics he can't deliver on. we were just talking about that before. he's been burned before by sort of laying out the contours of what he's working out with the president only to have his caucus slap him down and tell him no. so i think the problem is, as well, he's already said he wants the senate to go first, which a little thing called the constitution case the house has to originate spending and tax bills. most 6 this should be on boehner's shoulder. his chamber is where tax and spending bills are supposed to emerge. maybe it's because they are working out details and boehner doesn't want to get burned again. >> leigh gallagher from "fortune" magazine, thanks for sticking around, by the way. >> sure. >> harry reid also said he's had his confidence, this is a quote, he's had his confidence destroyed on other occasions so i hope it's not on this occasion, too. a lot of people have had their hopes dashed here, the markets we were just talking about. obviously, people who a
>> well, you know what, richard, i think this could be john boehner learning the lesson of not to put out any specifics he can't deliver on. we were just talking about that before. he's been burned before by sort of laying out the contours of what he's working out with the president only to have his caucus slap him down and tell him no. so i think the problem is, as well, he's already said he wants the senate to go first, which a little thing called the constitution case the house has to...
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john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about politics, we're not talking about finances here. they have to go over the cliff. that strengthens boehner's hands because now everybody is paying a hell of a lot more taxes and people are blaming the republicans, and now boehner can go to the caucus and maybe get 200 and a few votes and then with nancy pelosi pick off a few democrats and make some kind of deal. having said that, the best thing for the country is never to come to a deal because ed rendell is right. as a former governor, we don't operate with big deficits. you can't do that and we're in trouble in this country financially. the long term and in the short term, yes, we'll have a recession. it won't be a bad one but it will be one and nobody wants a recession. in the long term i think wall street goes crazy and yo
john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about politics, we're not talking about finances here. they have to go over the cliff. that strengthens boehner's hands because now everybody is paying a hell of a lot more taxes and people are blaming the republicans, and...
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my speaker right now, it is john boehner. i am proud to work with him. >> is one particularly effective? >> one of the most important pieces of that is speakers who are willing to reach out to members and seek your advice and counsel and input, those speakers have a way of having a lasting impact upon the place. i have spent a number of years in the building. if sam raburn is not a reflection of that, i don't know who is. >> how about presidents under which you have served? >> ronald reagan. i had the honor of serving with him and he signed air quality district act for southern california. the first preschool program in the country was signed by ronald reagan. people hardly believed that but he was willing to use government in a way that was responsive to real challenged that government should be dealing with. i was proud that we had a chance to work together in connection with some of that. a if you look across, it's lot of history, 34 years altogether, is there a time when you look back and say those are the best years. tho
my speaker right now, it is john boehner. i am proud to work with him. >> is one particularly effective? >> one of the most important pieces of that is speakers who are willing to reach out to members and seek your advice and counsel and input, those speakers have a way of having a lasting impact upon the place. i have spent a number of years in the building. if sam raburn is not a reflection of that, i don't know who is. >> how about presidents under which you have served?...
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the president and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would get all of this behind us before new year's eve.
the president and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see,...
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. >> they're willing to take us over the fiscal cliff essentially controls john boehner, preventing him from being able to make any reasonable deal to avoid taxes increasing on 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. >> being held hostage. knew that the clock was ticking. >> well, i don't know if it's so much that he boxed himself in. there is a fact out there that we now see more districts represented by people who win by over 20%, so they are hyper-partisan. yes, there are more republicans who are hyper-partisan than there are democrats. >> is boehner betting on the president losing? >> i don't know. i think what he was betting on is he could play his cards a little better. where he really lost control was on the parliament b move. i don't know what happened there. i think peel were hopeful they could come to a deal, but for a big deal to happen action he wood to have gone without the majority in congress, that could have led to a bigger deal, which he wasn't ready to do now, but perhaps after he's reelected speaker with the new congress in, he could put forward. >> we all have
. >> they're willing to take us over the fiscal cliff essentially controls john boehner, preventing him from being able to make any reasonable deal to avoid taxes increasing on 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. >> being held hostage. knew that the clock was ticking. >> well, i don't know if it's so much that he boxed himself in. there is a fact out there that we now see more districts represented by people who win by over 20%, so they are hyper-partisan. yes, there...
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host: we will john boehner face a challenge to speaker? guest: there is grumbling, but the feeling is no. i did not think so. one of the most significant things that happened, going back to that press conference one week ago when the talk was in the air, eric cantor stood by his side, and that was a signal that if anybody is going to challenge him, it might be eric cantor. he will not challenge. he is absolutely on board. host: david lightman, thank you as always for being with us. guest: thank you for having me. host: we will check in with you again and your dog. every friday we look at america by the numbers. today, we want to focus on the issue of hunger in america. "washington journal" continues. negotiations are resuming this afternoon at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. [applause] >> there are cynics said that a party platform is something nobody bothers to read and it does not amount to much. whether it is different this time than it has ever been before, i believe the republican party has a platform that is a banner of bold, unmistakable ca
host: we will john boehner face a challenge to speaker? guest: there is grumbling, but the feeling is no. i did not think so. one of the most significant things that happened, going back to that press conference one week ago when the talk was in the air, eric cantor stood by his side, and that was a signal that if anybody is going to challenge him, it might be eric cantor. he will not challenge. he is absolutely on board. host: david lightman, thank you as always for being with us. guest: thank...
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john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm, financial footing. it's obvious, mr. president what is going on around here. he's wait until january 3rd to get reelected as speaker, that is obvious from the debacker that took place last week, and it was a debacle. patti ann: a brandt ne brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm patti ann brown for martha maccallum. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett for bill hemmer. automatic tax hikes and spending cuts will be kicking in unless a deal is reached. how long the economy can sustain the one-two punch is anybody's question. patti ann: joining us now is steve moore from the "wall street journal." hopefully he can give us some answers. good morning, steve. what is the most immediate impact in we go over the cliff? >> we are talking about january 2nd taxing rising on over a hundred million americans. this is a big sock to the wallet of americans of every income group. let's just talk about the middle class for a minute. for those earning about 45 to 75,000 a year they are looking at paying somewh
john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm, financial footing. it's obvious, mr. president what is going on around here. he's wait until january 3rd to get reelected as speaker, that is obvious from the debacker that took place last week, and it was a debacle. patti ann: a brandt ne brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm patti ann brown for martha maccallum. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett for bill hemmer. automatic tax hikes and...
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that was when house speaker john boehner failed to bring his plan b for avoiding the fiscal cliff. he failed to bring that to a vote. the market has been selling off a bit every single day because nothing has happened to make investors feel like a deal is going to be reached. news of the meeting today happening at the white house this afternoon, that did help stocks make a comeback late yesterday. but they are selling off once again. it's fun ny you how things can change so quickly. there's just not that much confidence that a deal is going to get done. the market doesn't want a band-aid. one trader said it's too late for that. what the market is looking for is a full deal. >> all right. alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. thank you for that. >>> every 19 minutes someone dies of a drug overdose. most are not from elicit drugs, but fda drugs prescribed to millions of americans. dr. sanjay gupta reports. >> reporter: i rode along with lieutenant craig. he's been on the job for 30 years. he will tell you when he takes an overdose call, the usual suspect is a painkiller. >> wh
that was when house speaker john boehner failed to bring his plan b for avoiding the fiscal cliff. he failed to bring that to a vote. the market has been selling off a bit every single day because nothing has happened to make investors feel like a deal is going to be reached. news of the meeting today happening at the white house this afternoon, that did help stocks make a comeback late yesterday. but they are selling off once again. it's fun ny you how things can change so quickly. there's...
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guest: i cannot read john boehner's mind. let's say the senate takes up something where you extend all the rates for a year but you increase the rates for people making $500,000. let's say that passes the senate. 75 votes. they sent it to the house. are republicans in the house going to be that obstinate if the senate sends that kind of signal? i do not think so. that is what a lot of us watch mitch mcconnell very closely. there are people in his caucus who early to vote for what i just said. can they get it on the floor and overcome the procedural hurdles? host: if nothing happens, what are we looking at? guest: january 3 at noon. there are so many scenarios. if the new congress convenes on the third, negotiations continue. democrats would have more strength. they have gained 7 or eight seats. i think the key if they go over the cliff will be the financial markets. if the market go into a panic and if the dow tumbles into free-fall wednesday, thursday, friday, i think we'll see something quickly. host: david lightman, thank
guest: i cannot read john boehner's mind. let's say the senate takes up something where you extend all the rates for a year but you increase the rates for people making $500,000. let's say that passes the senate. 75 votes. they sent it to the house. are republicans in the house going to be that obstinate if the senate sends that kind of signal? i do not think so. that is what a lot of us watch mitch mcconnell very closely. there are people in his caucus who early to vote for what i just said....
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house speaker john boehner, mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live from washington. what do we expect to happen today? any new offers from the president or house speaker? >> we don't know. right now, all eyes on the senate to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together to get some republican support. technically, it's still possible to come to an agreement. that said, politically is a different story, and the prospects for coming to a deal are starting to dim. right now, we're hearing a whole lot of the blame game. a lot of public posturing from both sides as they prepare for the possibility of going over the cliff. let's listen to harry reid. >> we are here in washington working while members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, the speaker of the house, john boehner, sort of retorting to reid, ali. in a conference call he said the leaders should do more -- or pardon me. less talking
house speaker john boehner, mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live from washington. what do we expect to happen today? any new offers from the president or house speaker? >> we don't know. right now, all eyes on the senate to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together to get some republican support. technically, it's still possible to come to an agreement. that said, politically is a different story, and the prospects for coming to a deal are...
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boehner can bring his troops along. i think we have pretty strong evidence of that a real tough one for him. at this point, unless he's willing to say, i'll allow a vote to get over the transom with majority democrats then it looks to me like we're going over the cliff and i don't think he's willing to do that before the end of the year. i do think relative to something you guys were just talking about, that a bungee jump scenario is actually kind of plausible. and i think that's what they may be talking about at the white house today. how can we quickly reverse the damage? >> okay. now that we've ghot. the cliff out of the way, what's are number one biggest, most out rangeious prediction in 2013? >> i don't know how outrageous it is, my number one prediction is what i call the three "is." investment, immigration and implementation. eamon talked about immigration. i think he's 100% right on that. i think the political stars are uniquely aligned. investment in public goods. this is really important it's part of the presi
boehner can bring his troops along. i think we have pretty strong evidence of that a real tough one for him. at this point, unless he's willing to say, i'll allow a vote to get over the transom with majority democrats then it looks to me like we're going over the cliff and i don't think he's willing to do that before the end of the year. i do think relative to something you guys were just talking about, that a bungee jump scenario is actually kind of plausible. and i think that's what they may...
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john boehner said let me get third plan b . everybody is like where are the republicans on this? they should have stayed firm on the ryan plan. it was the best . back track a year ago. this stems from the failure of the super committee that stemmed from the simpson-bowles commission failing. simpson-bowles. they got together and made the recommendation to president obama who commissioned that study can. >> kelly: and yet rejected it. >> that fail would and went to the super committee. they need to get together. >> julia: if you watched fox news channel yesterday. there is a map with red dots and that is the newspaper and the lower hudson valley of upstate new york published the addresses of gun owners and now as you were talking eric, one lawmaker want to make that illegal. >> lawmaker state senator greg ball had this to say on cavuto. >> it is not upon illegal. this is not the first time the editorial board has done it. we have a bipartisan bill in the assembly and it is it a liberal new york state . this bill can get done. it is not about the second amendment only. it is a priv
john boehner said let me get third plan b . everybody is like where are the republicans on this? they should have stayed firm on the ryan plan. it was the best . back track a year ago. this stems from the failure of the super committee that stemmed from the simpson-bowles commission failing. simpson-bowles. they got together and made the recommendation to president obama who commissioned that study can. >> kelly: and yet rejected it. >> that fail would and went to the super...
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there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it seems of the republican caucus in the house of representatives who were unable to accept the results of the election in 2008 and steamed to continue to be unable to accept the results of the election in 2012. thus, they feel they have a license to hold the country hostage because they don't agree with two presidential elections, which is truly, truly if you think about it enough, which i choose not to, is rather bothersome. >> it's bothersome, and it doesn't fit their own agenda. in addition to object structure things they want to keep taxes down for most americans. it's not just about the tea party re
there will be a new election for speaker of the house, presumably john boehner will be re-elected. there will be a different house of representatives. however, still a republican majority but a small er majorit. boehner has a newly affirmed position and perhaps the dynamic is a bit different. but, you know, then again maybe it will be the same as it's been the last couple of years. >> richard, you know what i think bothers some people bothers me. it's that there is a small segment it...
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john boehner and mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live now from washington. great to see you. house doesn't return to work until sunday. logistically speaking here, is there still enough time to work out a deal? >> i will tell you logistically speaking, logistically speaking, yes. politically speaking, very much unclear, there's a growing amount of pessimism about whether or not that can be done. we've been talking for days about how eyes are on the senate to see what harry reid cobbles together to try to get republican support in the senate and house. he's saying it's hard to see how this can get done by january 1st. so we're seeing a lot of managing of expectations and certainly a lot of posturing on both sides as it appears they're getting ready to play the blame game should we go over the cliff. listen to both sides. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the mem
john boehner and mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live now from washington. great to see you. house doesn't return to work until sunday. logistically speaking here, is there still enough time to work out a deal? >> i will tell you logistically speaking, logistically speaking, yes. politically speaking, very much unclear, there's a growing amount of pessimism about whether or not that can be done. we've been talking for days about how eyes are on the senate to...
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house speaker john boehner will be at the meeting today. the house will convene for a rare sunday evening session. house majority leader eric cantor says the house could be in session until january 2nd, the day before the new congress is sworn in. boehner, meanwhile, maintains that it's up to the senate to act first. >>> millions of americans may watch the ball drop new year's eve in times square, but a group of democrats is organizing its own ball drop on capitol hill. they'll launch their countdown today. their ball represents republicans dropping the ball on middle class families should lawmakers fail to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> new this morning, iran's state television is reporting the country's navy started training drills in the strait of hormuz. that area sees 20% of the oil pass through it. the state tv report says that the programs include more ships, submarines and jet fighters. they've warned other ships to stay away from the site until after the new year. >>> melissa mollet joins us from the live desk with mor
house speaker john boehner will be at the meeting today. the house will convene for a rare sunday evening session. house majority leader eric cantor says the house could be in session until january 2nd, the day before the new congress is sworn in. boehner, meanwhile, maintains that it's up to the senate to act first. >>> millions of americans may watch the ball drop new year's eve in times square, but a group of democrats is organizing its own ball drop on capitol hill. they'll launch...
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it is john boehner. >> is one particularly effective? >> one of the most important pieces of that is speakers who are willing to reach out to members and seek your advice and counsel and input, those speakers have a way of having a lasting impact upon the place. i have >> how about presidents under which you have served? >> ronald reagan. i had the honor of serving with him and he signed air quality district act for southern california. the first preschool program in the country was signed by ronald reagan. people hardly believed that but he was willing to use government in a way that was responsive to real challenged that government should be dealing with. i was proud that we had a chance to work together in connection with some of that. >> if you look across, it's a lot of history, 34 years altogether, is there a time when you look back and say those are the best years. those are the ones i enjoyed the most. >> every year that goes by it amazes me that i am still here. i did not plan to be here this long. if i did not have the chance t
it is john boehner. >> is one particularly effective? >> one of the most important pieces of that is speakers who are willing to reach out to members and seek your advice and counsel and input, those speakers have a way of having a lasting impact upon the place. i have >> how about presidents under which you have served? >> ronald reagan. i had the honor of serving with him and he signed air quality district act for southern california. the first preschool program in the...
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so mitch mcconnell, speaker john boehner, they have to deal with the fact that president obama was reelected to raise taxes on the top 2% and speaker boehner and the republicans can't get their hands around their caucus, then the blame is on them. >> jarret, what do you think about all of this? you deal with the policy. you deal with the numbers. there has been some offers from the president, even to the chagrin of hi base. how do you make where we are? >> well, listening to the three of you and your introduction, i'm just struck a real low point in american politics over a period when there's been pretty good kovcompetition for the low of the low points. i'm also really kind of moved by the really political malpractice going on. we have an economic recovery on going. >> by the way, you don't really hear people talking about the unemployment rate. you're working to build on the momentum of this recovery. help them prove it so american households can get ahead on their own. through working hard. not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting the
so mitch mcconnell, speaker john boehner, they have to deal with the fact that president obama was reelected to raise taxes on the top 2% and speaker boehner and the republicans can't get their hands around their caucus, then the blame is on them. >> jarret, what do you think about all of this? you deal with the policy. you deal with the numbers. there has been some offers from the president, even to the chagrin of hi base. how do you make where we are? >> well, listening to the...
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does john boehner need nancy pelosi in order to get anything passed? >> reporter: yes, absolutely. no question about it. that became incredibly obvious when he couldn't even get his own republicans to effectively save them from themselves and at least have some political cover by voting to keep tax cuts in place for everybody except millionaires because they said they wouldn't help him with what they call a political ploy. i think that's true but actually talking to people on both sides of the aisle here, because the ball is now in the senate -- the senate's court, the feeling is that if they can kind of break the dam in the senate and if something actually passes, you've already seen over the past two days house republicans saying that they hadn't said before, if the senate passes something, we'll take it up. and if that's the case, the sort of betting is that with the help of the majority of the democrats, probably most of the democrats and maybe, you know, a few dozen or more republicans, that's how it would get passed. but, candy, it's still a big if, as we just witnessed, whet
does john boehner need nancy pelosi in order to get anything passed? >> reporter: yes, absolutely. no question about it. that became incredibly obvious when he couldn't even get his own republicans to effectively save them from themselves and at least have some political cover by voting to keep tax cuts in place for everybody except millionaires because they said they wouldn't help him with what they call a political ploy. i think that's true but actually talking to people on both sides...
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john boehner seems to and takell break away, whe you live to capitol hill. >> a pro forma session is a session without substance and solutions. america is looking to its congress for both. it is certainly looking to congress to be working. i said everywhere i go people ask me and urged me with hope in their voices, i hope you are working on that fiscal cliff, i hope you are getting the situation that we are not going over the fiscal cliff. sadly, i have to tell them that we are not there, we are not here, we are not working. every democrat, every republican ought to be here. the speaker ought to call us back into session. it is not as if we do not have a lot of work to do. in fact, we have a lot of work to do. secretary geithner sent a letter to me and others yesterday and it was reported in the paper today that america will reach its debt limit on december 31. that needs to be dealt with. so that we can maintain the credit worthiness of this nation, so we can give confidence to this economy. in addition to that, there is much other business to do. over the past weeks, majority leade
john boehner seems to and takell break away, whe you live to capitol hill. >> a pro forma session is a session without substance and solutions. america is looking to its congress for both. it is certainly looking to congress to be working. i said everywhere i go people ask me and urged me with hope in their voices, i hope you are working on that fiscal cliff, i hope you are getting the situation that we are not going over the fiscal cliff. sadly, i have to tell them that we are not there,...
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i never have known john boehner not to have a plan or idea to have a lead. i think again people overlook in this discussion how much support he had in the caucus. he clearly had somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 posts. this idea that the majority of republicans were against what he was proposing is not true. he had massive support and got no democratic help on the taxes and that probably killed the deal in the end. the speaker retains a lot of support and i suspect whatever he proposes today will get tremendous support in congress. >> your colleagues from ohio said that the big problem here is just continuous blame. both sides blaming each other and no one wanting to make the tough decision to take on something they may not like entirely. do you feel someone is very familiar with the members and your conference that there is too much blame game going on between both sides and people are too fearful of making the tough vote. it's a profile in courage. >> i think there is a lot of principaled opposition. it's not just the tax issue and the fact that they ha
i never have known john boehner not to have a plan or idea to have a lead. i think again people overlook in this discussion how much support he had in the caucus. he clearly had somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 posts. this idea that the majority of republicans were against what he was proposing is not true. he had massive support and got no democratic help on the taxes and that probably killed the deal in the end. the speaker retains a lot of support and i suspect whatever he proposes today...
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john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on a firm financial footing. it's obvious what's going on. he's waiting until january 3 to get reelected to speaker because he has so many people over there that won't follow what he wants. that's obvious from the debacle that took place last week. and it was a debacle. he made an offer to the president, the president came back, they're just a little bit apart, and he walked away there that and went to plan b. which all it did is whack people who need help the most. poor people. and he couldn't even pass that. remember, he's not letting the house of representatives vote, he's letting the republicans vote. it was so bad and he was in such difficult shape there he wouldn't even allow a vote to take place with his republicans because he knew he would lose. for months he's allowed house republicans to hold middle-class taxpayers hostage to protect the richest 2%. and the funny part about that, mr. president, the 2% don't want to be protected. the majority of rich people in this -- on our great country are wi
john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on a firm financial footing. it's obvious what's going on. he's waiting until january 3 to get reelected to speaker because he has so many people over there that won't follow what he wants. that's obvious from the debacle that took place last week. and it was a debacle. he made an offer to the president, the president came back, they're just a little bit apart, and he walked away there that and went to plan b....
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the house will be controlled by john boehner so it is divided. it's the idea that if they go home for christmas break, if they go over the cliff and if they do invest in the debt ceiling, people will get spooked because you hear stories about social security recipients and facing the checks in government. unemployment insurance dried up and payroll tax cuts. the paycheck will show that more is taken out for the tax. that will in turn cause the type of pressure on the new income in congress. it's interesting that we have the same with k. bailey hutchinson. what's gotten her is fleethat t will go home and obama will introduce his own package and they have nothing to do but accept it. or they get blamed for everything. >> can you recall a time in your life and your politics, a couple of years at least, a comparable level of incompetence in washington. >> the last four years. i spent some of the time over the holidays for my since reading about this. my overall reaction is groundhog day. it's the same issues. some of the same players and the same que
the house will be controlled by john boehner so it is divided. it's the idea that if they go home for christmas break, if they go over the cliff and if they do invest in the debt ceiling, people will get spooked because you hear stories about social security recipients and facing the checks in government. unemployment insurance dried up and payroll tax cuts. the paycheck will show that more is taken out for the tax. that will in turn cause the type of pressure on the new income in congress....